Title: The Doctor
wissaboo - August 10, 2007 10:22 PM (GMT)
why did the doctor have to use any medical instruments at all? why didn't they just appear in his hand when he needed them?
GCE-1701-D - August 10, 2007 11:45 PM (GMT)
perhaps a hologram isn't quite as tangable as the Doctor seemed, as in maybe a holo-whatever isn't actually as solid as the real object, and maybe not as exacting as the real tool
Almighty - August 10, 2007 11:58 PM (GMT)
The doctor was a backup for the real thing , so all the tools of the trade were real because the real doctor would use then 99 % of the time .
Anyway , who said VOY had to make sense :p
GCE-1701-D - August 11, 2007 12:03 AM (GMT)
still.. on the holodeck say if you eat something, or drink something, etc.. that's not Holofood or holo-placesettings, it's something that was replicated, because the holodeck uses a combination of replicated things and holoimagry to create a realistic environment, so by that definition any tools he'd need (atleast if this was a holodeck) would be replicated real tools, not a holographic representation
wissaboo - August 11, 2007 12:06 AM (GMT)
darren you are arguing against yourself :p
if he could just have any tool he needed kes would even be more useless.
Almighty - August 11, 2007 12:11 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (GCE-1701-D @ Aug 11 2007, 10:03 AM) |
| still.. on the holodeck say if you eat something, or drink something, etc.. that's not Holofood or holo-placesettings, it's something that was replicated, because the holodeck uses a combination of replicated things and holoimagry to create a realistic environment, so by that definition any tools he'd need (atleast if this was a holodeck) would be replicated real tools, not a holographic representation |
On a "real" Trek series they couldnt just replicate everything , or else it wouldnt take years to build a Starship , they would just replicate one :sarcastic:
Some things would have to be too difficult to just replicate ( what a holodeck does in conjuction with the transporter) .
They could build the part or instrument with parts made in the replicator , but the instument would most likely still have to be "real" to work properly
GCE-1701-D - August 11, 2007 12:43 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Almighty @ Aug 10 2007, 06:11 PM) |
On a "real" Trek series they couldnt just replicate everything , or else it wouldnt take years to build a Starship , they would just replicate one :sarcastic:
Some things would have to be too difficult to just replicate ( what a holodeck does in conjuction with the transporter) .
They could build the part or instrument with parts made in the replicator , but the instument would most likely still have to be "real" to work properly |
that's kind of what I was saying all along, that he can't just make a tool appear in his hand and have it be real, unless it was replicated and then beamed into this hand, which would kind of be overly complex and a waste of resources and power
Almighty - August 11, 2007 12:47 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (GCE-1701-D @ Aug 11 2007, 10:43 AM) |
| QUOTE (Almighty @ Aug 10 2007, 06:11 PM) | On a "real" Trek series they couldnt just replicate everything , or else it wouldnt take years to build a Starship , they would just replicate one :sarcastic:
Some things would have to be too difficult to just replicate ( what a holodeck does in conjuction with the transporter) .
They could build the part or instrument with parts made in the replicator , but the instument would most likely still have to be "real" to work properly |
that's kind of what I was saying all along, that he can't just make a tool appear in his hand and have it be real, unless it was replicated and then beamed into this hand, which would kind of be overly complex and a waste of resources and power
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OK then , we aggree :lol:
The Doc was well played by the excelent Rob Picardo , one shinning light in an otherwise dungheap that was VOY lol
GCE-1701-D - August 11, 2007 12:48 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Almighty @ Aug 10 2007, 06:47 PM) |
| QUOTE (GCE-1701-D @ Aug 11 2007, 10:43 AM) | | QUOTE (Almighty @ Aug 10 2007, 06:11 PM) | On a "real" Trek series they couldnt just replicate everything , or else it wouldnt take years to build a Starship , they would just replicate one :sarcastic:
Some things would have to be too difficult to just replicate ( what a holodeck does in conjuction with the transporter) .
They could build the part or instrument with parts made in the replicator , but the instument would most likely still have to be "real" to work properly |
that's kind of what I was saying all along, that he can't just make a tool appear in his hand and have it be real, unless it was replicated and then beamed into this hand, which would kind of be overly complex and a waste of resources and power
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OK then , we aggree :lol:
The Doc was well played by the excelent Rob Picardo , one shinning light in an otherwise dungheap that was VOY lol
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Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Lynx might hear you! :crazy: :scared:
AdmiralGummy - August 11, 2007 01:37 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (wissaboo @ Aug 10 2007, 08:06 PM) |
darren you are arguing against yourself :p
if he could just have any tool he needed kes would even be more useless. |
I don't think that Kes could be anymore useless than she already was. :jack:
Freyr Tuck - September 7, 2007 05:39 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Almighty @ Aug 10 2007, 07:47 PM) |
| QUOTE (GCE-1701-D @ Aug 11 2007, 10:43 AM) | | QUOTE (Almighty @ Aug 10 2007, 06:11 PM) | On a "real" Trek series they couldnt just replicate everything , or else it wouldnt take years to build a Starship , they would just replicate one :sarcastic:
Some things would have to be too difficult to just replicate ( what a holodeck does in conjuction with the transporter) .
They could build the part or instrument with parts made in the replicator , but the instument would most likely still have to be "real" to work properly |
that's kind of what I was saying all along, that he can't just make a tool appear in his hand and have it be real, unless it was replicated and then beamed into this hand, which would kind of be overly complex and a waste of resources and power
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OK then , we aggree :lol:
The Doc was well played by the excelent Rob Picardo , one shinning light in an otherwise dungheap that was VOY lol
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Hey.....I liked Voyager.......(though I admit it had its problems....like those turdbuckets called Kes and Naomi)
Rajiin - September 7, 2007 03:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (AdmiralGummy @ Aug 10 2007, 06:37 PM) |
| QUOTE (wissaboo @ Aug 10 2007, 08:06 PM) | darren you are arguing against yourself :p
if he could just have any tool he needed kes would even be more useless. |
I don't think that Kes could be anymore useless than she already was. :jack:
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I agree that Kes was pretty useless in the beginning but once she began to develop her powers she was a badass in the end.
Also, as I devote myself to fully watching this series, I'm really liking Neelix. I don't care what you bashers say, his character brought a lot to this show. :thumbs:
Ezri - September 7, 2007 08:13 PM (GMT)
All right Kes was a bad ass in the end and was a very powerful woman.
Neelix ...... it was so sweet they dumped him off on that rock in space.
Not even worth a photon torpedo.
Neelix ..... wanted to spend the rest of his life in a center of a dead rock in space.
Did not Kon wanted to give Kirk and company the same fate.
Have this feeling if Kon dumped Neelix on that dead moon, Neelix would say "thank you so much Mr Kon"
GCE-1701-D - September 8, 2007 04:28 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Rajiin @ Sep 7 2007, 09:30 AM) |
| QUOTE (AdmiralGummy @ Aug 10 2007, 06:37 PM) | | QUOTE (wissaboo @ Aug 10 2007, 08:06 PM) | darren you are arguing against yourself :p
if he could just have any tool he needed kes would even be more useless. |
I don't think that Kes could be anymore useless than she already was. :jack:
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I agree that Kes was pretty useless in the beginning but once she began to develop her powers she was a badass in the end.
Also, as I devote myself to fully watching this series, I'm really liking Neelix. I don't care what you bashers say, his character brought a lot to this show. :thumbs:
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Kes got better then she was when she started yes, but her character never had the development or potention that Seven did, (that or the writers just didn't care to put in the work :lol: )
and Neelix.... I guess he's one of those characters that you either love or you hate, every series sees to have a "hated" character (actually every one but TOS I think because I don't remember groups of people ever expressing extreme dislike for one of those characters :confused: )
Rajiin - September 10, 2007 06:04 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ezri @ Sep 7 2007, 01:13 PM) |
All right Kes was a bad ass in the end and was a very powerful woman.
Neelix ...... it was so sweet they dumped him off on that rock in space.
Not even worth a photon torpedo.
Neelix ..... wanted to spend the rest of his life in a center of a dead rock in space.
Did not Kon wanted to give Kirk and company the same fate.
Have this feeling if Kon dumped Neelix on that dead moon, Neelix would say "thank you so much Mr Kon" |
That 'rock in space' had the woman and child he loved on it. It also people of his own species there .......... two things that seemed very important to him. Love will move you to live almost anywhere. Don't be such a cynic. :spank:
2of2mcrlilgee - December 15, 2007 05:01 PM (GMT)
i loved the ep. when the doctor was pretending to be the captain. that was funny
Violet - July 26, 2008 03:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (wissaboo @ Aug 10 2007, 04:22 PM) |
| why did the doctor have to use any medical instruments at all? why didn't they just appear in his hand when he needed them? |
I never thought about it before...but I would say For the comfort of the crew...
Some dude coming at me with weird ass hands would freak me out.
when you are injured.. you may be delusional.. so a more naturally looking doctor would be best.