Excitement builds as Christmas Day, 2008 slowly approaches.
I (along with my kids) will be in line on Opening Day as we are anxious to see the latest incarnation of our beloved franchise.
So, what are you hoping for in this new movie?

I'm hoping for something that will make money :lol:



Actually I'm hoping it will be something that will redefine trek and spark another 18 years or so of production. Like TNG did.

Something that won't bore or disappoint me like Nemesis did. :sarcastic:

i had a dream about it last night, which mixed the new "rebooted" star trek with the new battlestar galactica... it looked amazing,but it was NOT star trek. i think thats one of my fears, that it wont be star trek any more.

HOWEVER i will be on the opening line, chiristmas day, abandoning my family to see it hehe.

and i truly hope it brings ST back to live

I'm hoping that it sparks new interest and brings in new fans that will fall in love with Trek as we all have. I believe that it won't be boring, or uninteresting. I think it will be the blockbuster hit of the holiday season.

Something better than Nemesis.
Christmas Day?!? The only things open are 7-11 & Game Crazy..I'll probably have to wait till the weekend & try to find someone that will go w/me. :lol:

^ i think if something as big as a star trek film is coming out on that day some places will just stay open for a special showing and then return to normal showings the following day.

I'm pretty sure that my favorite theater will be open at Midnight on Christmas Day to start showing it. It will piss off the employees, but too bad for them. ;)

^meh they are paid to do it, and they might even get to see it. i cant think of a luckyer job hehe

The only reason to go back to a younger Kirk and Spock is to reboot the franchise.

I'm desperately hoping that it's of at least the new BSG in quality. Then the franchise has a chance. It's got to bring in new (mainstream audience) blood & $$$ or it's done for.

I hope that I won't be in tears from how bad it is. That's what happened after Nemesis. After that, everything else is just gravy.

Funny you should mention Nemesis. My son and I were discussing that movie yesterday while watching First Contact on the Sci-Fi Channel. We agreed that it wasn't quite as bad as some make it out to be. I've seen bigger stinkers than that. :o

Nemesis is in my top 3 Trek movies. I thought it was very good.

I am hoping that STXI has good writing and not huge holes in the plot or weak writing like Generations and First Contact.

And I thought that First Contact was the best of the TNG Movies.
Generations wasn't.

I have a number of problems with First Contact...

1. I felt that both Picard and Worf acted out of character. Picard encountered the Borg a number of times after being assimilated and never displayed that type of irrational passion in the show. And Worf would never tell Picard "If you were any other man I would kill you." Sorry...

2. If the Borg can travel in time to screw up Earth's past, what's to stop them from traveling back for a second attempt at some other point in time and/or some other place? It just so happens that the Enterprise could follow this time. Why don't the Borg try it again when there are no Star Fleet ships around? Good writers avoid these types of holes in plots.

3. The guy who was casted to play Cochran sucked. Bad casting.

4. Jonathan Frakes' directing was weak. The movie was a whole lot of cheese to me. Just another poorly done Trek movie.

TUC, WOK, & Nemesis were the only 3 Trek movies I felt were really, really good. I don't understand all the criticism of Nemesis.

I understand your points, Spicy.
But, I try not to read too much into any of the movies that I watch.
I like to be entertained. These movies, ANY movies, that I watch, I watch them because they entertain me. And the Trek Movies, and all of the series do just that.
Entertain me. ;)

wok was really the only star trek movie I enjoyed.


It is also the only one i remember though I'm sure I've seen them all. None of them have been very good in my opinion

I didn't think nemisis was any worse than the others for what it is worth.

Agreed. But I'm blatantly partial to all Trek Movies. I love them all equally. :thumbs:

I am entertained by movies that at least try to make sense. ;)

I am entertained by movies and shows that don't make sense.
So, as you can see, I am easily amused. :wtf:

It's funny you should mention that, because I have made frequent posts on other boards on how Nemesis is not as terrible as it seems. I mean, the dune buggy kinda takes over everything on the first viewing, but later... well, like I said, frequent posts.

I think that Nemesis is better than Insurrection.

In a way it is. Of course, Insurrection never featured a dune buggy, but then it didn't feature much of anything, did it? Except Riker and Troi finally getting together. Nemesis... it had something for everyone. Riker and Troi's wedding (which I wish had actually been onscreen, but whatever), a cute scene for Guinan, Data finally becoming human in a way (choosing to end his life for another), Deanna finally has a purpose other than stating the obvious, the dark side of Picard, and am I the only one who thought the saucer looked kinda sharp all these years?

Insurrection may not have been ripped off another movie, but it sure wasn't anything else, either.

Everyone keeps mentioning the Dune Buggy in Nemesis. I really didn't pay it much mind , if at all. It was an OK Scene, but again, just a minor part in the overall movie. I thought the interaction of the characters was the key for me. They seemed comfortable together. Like they knew that this would be their last time together. And Picard has trashed more starships than Kirk, Sisko, Archer and Janeway put together. Picard:2, Kirk-1, everyone else=0).

personally, and i have said this before, I love Nemesis. yes it was a re-used script, yes they killed Data but luckily had a replacement for the actors character by co-insidance. Yeah i know there were a lot of plot holes, things that didn't make sense and were a little bit silly. BUT, as a film i loved it! the problem with it was that they tryed to make it with more action for a more modern audience and hoped the fans would like it. i did.

Where as Insurrection was a pretty normal star trek film, except it was sh*te. It was another re-used script, and Data floated ffs. the acting was pretty poor and the joystick on the enterprise was also silly. but i still enjoyed it.

in summery, every film in the star trek list has something repetitive about it, something annoying, something silly and most of them worked. Nemesis isn't that bad of a film, even if it doesn't fit into the story well, and even if they forgot about some things.


Now, star trek 11 we don't know about yet. No doubt there will be things that make the fans scream and cry, some silly things and probably a lot of repetition. but because its being "re-booted" we might also see something new, and it might work and it might not. its too early to tell. but i do think it will be a good film to watch, even if i only think of it as stand alone.

People like to say that, but it is overstated. Yes, the idea that Picard had a nemesis was inspired by WOK, but both movies had different stories. I'll never understand the Nemesis haters.

What plot holes?

Au contriaire. Sisko lost a Defiant and do we count the Saratoga? Janeway blew up Voyager several times. And if you fall for that "books are canon" nonsense, Kirk lost the Lydia Sutherland.

For me the dune buggy just stood out. I was sitting in a roomfull of laughing people in the theater and all I could think was, "Oh my God. It's a dune buggy. Picard's driving a dune buggy. It's a dune buggy!" There were other ridiculous moments, but I agree that the camaradarie was at it's height.

You know what would have been nice? A poker game.

I should have clarified Doc. My Bad.
I should have said "IN THE MOVIES."
Thus, it's Kirk, 1, Picard, 1.5 (the .5 being when Enterprise E was rammed in the Shinzon's Ship leaving it all screwed up), And those were the only Captains that we saw in the movies. Sisko, Janeway (as a Captain) and Archer weren't in any of the movies.

Okay, but I was right about the poker game.

If I wrote the movie, it would have opened at a Poker Game, then at the wedding.

Thing is, Gummy, that STXI won't be the Star Trek we know...it will be a different form of it, and more than likely will exist in its own reality separate from the reality we know, or some kind of post-Enterprise reality.

Those that read my posts on the Movies board at st know I advocate an all new Trek set post-Nemesis in the existing reality.

Since I no longer go to the st.com boards, I haven't seen your posts concerning the next film. I would be happy if it's something that keeps the existing fans happy and brings in new fans that haven't seen Trek before. Then, it would be a win-win situation.

There's tons to worry about. Like the fact that I'm pretty sure Roberto Orci (who swears they're gonna try to stick to canon) has never heard of deep space nine.

as a side note - why skip the startrek.com boards? if you pass over the complete and total crap, it's like five minutes out of your day.

I used to go there, but I now belong to two other Trek Boards that I enjoy contributing more than there. That one doesn't do anything for me.

Over at www.trekmovie.com, they're reporting that the producers are hoping to get a big name to play the villian in the movie. Russell Crowe is one name that was mentioned.
Your thoughts?

DS9 doesn't matter than much in the time line unless they do something stupid like bring one of the characters in, or bring the dominion in earlier than they were discovered or something like that. i doubt much they can do with the film will make anything form ds9 not make sense, it is kind of on the side of star trek, in its own little bit. if that makes sense.