In other words, could the Tng crew still attract a mainstream audience in another movie, or did their popularity begin to decline over a decade ago?

personally, I think the appeal still exists. the problem is they're going to need an incredibly good movie that has been written with expertise and respect to not only the current fans but to gain interest by the mainstream, as well as producers that will allow the job to get done properly and will get it advertised in theatres for all to see.

in other words, no idiots allowed.

I think they still have appeal. The TNG Cast has been around for almost 20 years. That almost half of the franchise's history. They may have taken awhile to gain acceptance, but now they're as much a part of the lore of Trek as the TOS Cast. I would'nt mind seeing another TNG Movie, as long is it's a better plot than the last two movies. But it would be hard to beat "First Contact". IMO

I'm afraid I don't think so. Appeal to us? Yes. Mass appeal? Not so much.

I think people still remember the crew with affection , but they did not age as gracefully? as the TOS crew.

Fat ass Riker and Troi look terrible , and allthough Dorn and spiner's makeup is good you can se how they've aged .

The only one who hasnt aged much is Stewart and he is theh one most average people connect TNG with.

I often wonder how much of the Trek connection had to do with the success of the Xmen movies?

The fact that they were good probably didnt hurt , but i believe people wanted to see Stewart in a different role as well.

Anyway , i dont think the crew has much mass market appeal , but Stewart has .

2007 is there 20th anniversary. They will be the focus of Creation's Trek Con in Vegas. The question is will it be as big as this years was .

I think the question is in error in understanding why the TNG films didn't work well.

The real question should be, "Does the TNG formula translate well on the big screen"?

TOS had a formula. There was this classic interaction between Kirk, Spock and McCoy. yes, you had the other characters, but they were largely interchangable. The important drama happened between those three characters, Kirk solving a problem relying on Spock's logic and McCoy's passion to guide him. With these three characters, the formula translated well to the big screen. (Well, in about half the movies, anyway.)

TNG was more of an ensemble cast, with certain characters taking the fore while others faded to the background depending on the story. This worked okay on the TV show, where you had 26 episodes a season, and each character could reasonably count on at least one episode a season being about him or her.
(And this is also the formula for DS9 and Voyager.)

This formula doesn't work on the big screen, because there isn't enough time to do all the characters justice. So really, the TNG movies are about Picard and Data, and events around other characters (like Troi and Riker finally getting together) get pushed to the background.

Nope, not really.

I think you have a point here.

While I really enjoy watching the TNG episodes, I do have mixed emotions about the movies. None of the movies are actually that good.

I always get the impression that the length of a movie is too long for a good story.

"First Contact" is a good example of that, the first 20 minutes and the last 20 minutes are good but between that, there's a long period where nothing is happening.

Story-wise, the movies seems a lot weaker than most of the TV episodes.

As for "mass appeal", there are a lot of people who watch the TNG re-runs all over the world, the series is still appreciated and popular and it attracts new viewers too but I don't think that the movies have the same attraction.

A new TNG movie? No?

It would be like what John Lennon used to say about a Beatles reunion in the 70:s: "We would only be four rusty old men".

Holy snappen' duck shit !!!!!

Lnyx posted outside of the Voyager forum :o

:lol:

And very proud of her, we are, aren't we?? :clap:

Well, I'm full of surprises as you can see! :D

To be honest, I'm a TNG fan too and I have a wide interest in Star Trek.

The problem is that I often get stuck in those Kes debates so I simply don't have the time to debate anything else.

A small correction too: Lynx is a "he", not a "she".

I don't think the TNG crew has any appeal left. They had there day and now it is time for a new Enterprise with a new crew in the future NOT the past.

Just a tip Josh

The 23rd century IS the future :p

I meant move forward from TNG, DS9 and VOY era. Not backwards. I am quite sure you know that I meant that.